I already own the Foreo Bear microcurrent device though, which I have been using for a few months. Thank you so much for the tips for hydrating skin. So his personal experience is from over 20 years ago. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Laura is a skincare addict and sunscreen enthusiast with more than 10 years of experience working in healthcare and over 5 years of experience working as a nurse. Nonsurgical Nonablative Treatment of Aging skin: Radiofrequency Technologies Between Aggressive Marketing and Evidence-Based Efficacy. Instead, there are more lines appearing on my under-eye areas and the skin is very dry. Hi may i know how old are you ? She left the rods sitting on my cheeks for too long and at a high intensity and also did the same thing above and below my lips. I had NeoGen, and Im positive the laser loon just just used the wrong energy for my skin type. Im fifty years old and have problems with constant dehidration, so my skin usually looks tired. Msg me on FB and Ill show you pics. I was so worried about blindness before I went into the clinic and was so happy to find out I could still see after the treatment. Or have some kind of diagnosis to see its not for a cosmetic purpose. My heart goes out to all of you. But experts say there isn't any data to suggest this "hack" actually . Mary, contact me. Im in the UK, and would be interested to hear if anything made an improvement? At first I was happy with the results, but now I am concerned in case what is happening is gradual fat loss. I can not seem to find any information online that explains if it is possible for RF microneedloing energy to transfer to nearby unintended areas. We ALL must fight LOUD about whats been done to is. Dnt know how to manage it. Her work has appeared in digital publications like Livestrong, Verywell, Business Insider, Eat This Not That, and others. How do they know for sure? I told the therapist that I was happy with my face and I didnt want to do it if it would affect my cheek area. I had RF microneedling (Agnes RF) in my lower jowls, but notice my cheek looks flatter much higher up where I was not treated. To sum up, radiofrequency rejuvenation treatments are a relatively new and promising treatment with multiple studies supporting their use in tightening skin and improving the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles. It even distorted my smile. Plastic surgeon. I ordered a mini HiFu device. Rapid weight loss can also make the face look hollow and etched with deep lines. Do Weight Loss Drugs Cause Hair Loss? Doctors Explain None of them would confirm the damage was definitely from RF, but they accepted I believe it is. Do you definitely think its getting worse? I used to have a lovely oval shaped face, and now I have a narrow V shaped face. Im not sure if I am able to read further comments. Botox on massetter was great until I was immune to it. I am skeptucal about fat transfer, fillers giving a natural looking restoration of volume. I dont want to do filler, as I think can make you look older too, but I am at a loss. Positive reviews recommend using the device consistently to see results but not to expect unrealistic results comparable to a face lift. Yet, there were stories similar to mine and much worse. Juvederm and Botox are different products with different ingredients used for the same goal better looking skin and fewer wrinkles. Thank you for sharing your story. Am I understanding this right? Has anyone looked into this? I have 10 cc fillers injected on my chin and its been only 3 mths and I could only feel a little bit of it. Danielle: I am sorry you had to experience this. I have consulted two dermatologists in Hong Kong. They will admit that lasers can cause fat loss and that I it happened to me based on my before and after pics, but as soon as I ask them to put it in a face to face visit note, they immediately start going back on what they say and then will refuse to write a letter. These claims are misleading and patients expecting results similar to those from surgery will end up disappointed [11]. After a visit to an ophthalmologist, she told me I had hemorrhaging of my blood vessels. Will it stop me from thinking about Botox every time I look at my forehead? The skin contraction after the treatment was extreme. I am presently consulting with legal counsel. Hope this nightmare ends soon for you. I just want to stress that this is a very rare side effect that is unlikely to happen to most people, its just a small possibility that people should be aware of before going through with some laser treatments especially readiofrequency. And if you dont mind, can I email you for more details and share how is your face recently? My right arm is now numb as well. Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Skin care products should be a staple in your routine to keep skin moisturized but can take a long time to see results. And Cerave facial moisturizing lotion which is suggested by Luke, who left comments previously. Consider any sensation a cue to layer on some more primer. Im so glad your surgeries brought you close to who you were before. I am one month post my first session and it was a horrific experience if im honest. Listening to Eckhart Tolle has helped me. The area of my cheek that is now flattened was not directly treated with the needle, so I am only guessing that the area treated is tightening and pulling the area above downward. I also read about Volufilline, but I also know that it causes enlarged pores, so I am scared to try that. My under eyes were hollow (we focused the treatment there for my crows feet), cheekbones looked melted, and face way grayish. I feel like I still loosing fat. I also inquired about PRP and skin booster and was told that they would not help much in terms of hollowness, etc. I know people will say that I should have gone to a professional and they would be right, but it seems even the professional treatments are causing fat loss. Any thoughts? What Is Rosacea? I seriously aged 40 years! Is there any way I can restore the fat loss/ skin damage it is really depressing me. I had been very slim before treatment, but the treatment seems took the last part of fat. My face had a more feminine shape and now its so thin. Its getting worse with time. Immediately she told me to put it on the highest setting. ( neck,cheekbones) 3 weeks later after first treatment the changes were nice. It can be fixed with the help of ceramides , hyaluronic acid and niacinamide. Dont waste your time talking to lawyers UNTIL you have a presentation that can convince them to invest their time and expenses in you. Could microneedling + prp (without energy) ONLY the scar be helpful in plumping and thickening that area? The apple of my cheek was sitting higher before. I had Agnes RF 2 weeks ago. I would like to use this microcurrent device but I'm concerned that in the process I will strengthen the very muscles I have paid to weaken. And things like the Morpheus should be taken off the market. All this does is tell us that real plastic surgery is the only way to go about physical change. 1 month later I had divots in my cheeks and bad jowels. the link is https://www.facebook.com/groups/942682239849381, Thank you so much! If anyone else lands on this page, having similar issues cleared up on their own years after a disastrous procedure, please let us know. Some doctors now are warning of fat atrophy from lasers. I am so disappointed that this treatment is allowed to be performed without all the information on what could go wrong being provided. It is traumatic to see someone easily 15 years older in the mirror. This technology and other rf tighteners should one have a warning that states that is destroys fat (and is exposing one to radiation as well) and that fat loss is a result, the people administering this should advise against it to people without a great excess of fat on face, three it should be called malpractice to administer a treatment to damage the dermis and epidermis simultaneously (when combined with rf microneedling) and four everyone who has suffered any malpractice should be compensated for it. I lost all my subcutaneous fat. Yes- I lost all fat and skin elasticity also. Does NuFace do anything? I just wanted the scar to fill in, thats all. Radiofrequency is often used as a non-ablative skin rejuvenation treatment. Every other day I would lose even more. Im sorry to hear about your experience Kim. Why cant these doctors admit these treatments are dangerous?! I thought to my self oh well, I guess I should just have it all done as suggested , even though Ive always liked my legs (except for that one little pesky perfectly imperfect crease on the right thigh that no one but myself ever noticed). There are class action suits over this that I have joined. My advice is to talk to someone who knows what they do. But I think everyone knows his or her own face the best. As beauty trends come and go, so do the different techniques people use to conform to them. I experienced the fat loss side effect but I am living proof that skin recovers. I was very thin already before the treatment, not much fat to begin with. Please be careful when you choose to use an energy device such as radio frequency. I, too, have tried to file a lawsuit due to fat loss from a radio frequency laser. The laser has thickened and tightened the dermis in the wrong places. Unfortunately, I am unable to offer much advice as this goes beyond my scope of expertise. Heat was too high and damaged you! (I was so thrilled with the results initially that it got me looking into other devices, which is in part what brought me here). I tried using my NuFace both morning and night and personally prefer to use it in the morning because 1) my nighttime routine is already way too long 2) it's a nice way to wake up in the morning and get rid of a sleepy, puffy face. Can anyone recommend a lawyer in La? I need advise on what to do. This content is imported from youTube. My cheeks are smaller. Unfortunately, his expertise was in surgery not these newfangled lasers and he turned up the heat too high, burning my skin and facial fat. You might be able to win damages against the technician and establishment where your procedure was performed. Dont you feel bad for the spa either. And you know that electric current? We definitely need to support each other, and some ppl have found viable solutions. In Ultherapy, the ultrasound waves penetrate to three different depths: 1.5mm (where Sofwave also does its work), 3.0mm, and 4.5mm, penetrating through to fat, nerves, and superficial muscular tissue. Now I do my due diligence and I must be learning my lesson because I found this site and cancelled my RF appointment. Also my cheeks. You sound super smart! You cant sue the manufacturer when someone plows down pedestrians, unless the car was defective. 5 years. I was not made aware of any side effects at the time. I experienced pain too. We need to get the word out there. Thanks. this is the only place you have been treated btw? What are your thoughts about the Nira anti aging laser - QVC I lost sooooo much volume in my face it completely deflated it in just 6 months I had such a full beautiful face. You are only being scammed out of your money and worse, you have to live with consequences of any of your physical beauty that you did have to be diminished significantly. All i got was a sorry and a refund. I pray for all of us that somehow our bodies decide to restore the fat and it happens. I cannot tell you how comforting it is to come across this thread after over a year of feeling so alone. I do the research and I think Facial Fat Grafting is better than the fillers. I had IPL at least 3 times a yr to control rosacea and get rid of age spots. When told office my skin looked more saggy, they said wasnt possible as laser tightens. Tell us about your experience in the comment section below. No mention of this affect was found. For weeks after treatment I had a painful dent on my jawline, and vertically upward from that spot the cheek was flattened. The only thing to consider is where the fat is lost. I Tried Gua Sha for 2 Weeks and Here Are my Before and After - WholeYum Were both the victims of tripollar rf devices. A bunch of old crows while these spas are getting rich! Nushape Lipo Wrap Review: Red Lights for Weight Loss? The group is named Facial Damage from Radiofrequency and Lasers Support Group. Ruiz-Esparza, J. Essentially yes. "Various factors such as genetics, aging, and underlying fat contribute to hooded eyelids. Feel free to contact me thru FB. I hope you can do the same. The cheeks look more toned/tight/lifted, but also flatter at rest. NuFACE creates at-home microcurrent devices that are more cost-effective in the long run and claim to offer similar results. Or have some kind of diagnosis to see its not for a cosmetic purpose. I was never once made aware that the treatment could cause facial fat loss or any other damage. I only did 5 mins at a very low heat level maybe a 3 out of 6. The patients skin indentations were treated with pulsed-dye laser (PDL) and skin massage which led to an 80% improvement in the appearance of the facial fat loss after one year, A further case of facial fat loss after radiofrequency was seen in a 56-year-old woman who experienced skin depressions to both temples that developed two months after treatment. Hi Ester, how have you got on with your reversal regime? I did radio frequency on myself and have had considerable fat loss. Atiyeh, B. And of course the dermal fillers that I so wanted to avoid and that is why I got that stupid RF procedure. The NuFACE FIX delivers a gentle microcurrent dose to the skin's surface layers with a "feathering" technique. While the technology has been around since the late 1970s, it wasnt always used for beauty purposes. Thank goodness I found this page in time! I too have used filler, but they do not remain and shortly after, it looks like I need more. They did go back to normal but I dont feel like it worked. Im not sure if I have already lost fat. It is still a challenge that Im always working on though. Isnt it true how you can tell the slightest difference in our faces, even when others cant? Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. No one knows how the body will react. The information on RealSelf is intended for educational purposes only. Paying up to $500 every three months for injections isn't a commitment Im ready make just yet, so bring on the at-home skincare tools! For example, the fat padding on the cheekbones adds structure to the face, so a reduction in facial fat in this area could lead to sagging cheeks and jowls. Not only my face is older beyond my years, but I feel like Ive lost my legs. Now i feel I have to do it all over again. One radiofrequency treatment that was approved by the FDA to treat eye wrinkles in 2002, and for full-face treatment in 2004, is Thermage [9]. Non-ablative treatments improve the appearance of skin by causing a dermal injury response without injuring the epidermis. Hi Stela, Im so sorry that you experienced that. Does anyone know the best way to loosen or break up scar tissue, which causes the skin to tighten and shrivel down? Beauty standards arent the only things changing over the centuries. Ive spent thousands of dollars trying to correct this. I look back on my before pictures and want to bawl ! I used it just four times, and its meant to be used for 8 weeks. In addition to radiofrequency treatments, other laser treatments that work by thermolysis have demonstrated facial fat loss as an undesired side-effect. 1 Dr. Michael Horn explains that as we age, we lose bone, facial volume, collagen, elastin, and fat. For your mental health And by the way, you have a better claim for malpractice since a doctor did this. I then rub the leftover gel into my skin and finish with my moisturizer and sunscreen. And heres an elaborate explanation from a doctor about how prp works: https://www.realself.com/question/nyack-ny-prp-injections-fat-muscle-layer-skin. With years of experience as an apparel visual merchandiser and personal shopper, Alison Gary provides advice on how to achieve personal style no matter your age, size, or budget. There has been no apparent damage to her face as yet but she did collapse shortly after using it and will not be using it again, and she is worried that damage might be happening. If you have a pacemaker or other implanted electrical devices, you should not use this therapy before consulting with your healthcare provider, Dr. Evans says. I have faith that I will be able to effectively find a remedy to this now new problem. I guess every treatment will have some risks, and you never know how your skin and body will react to a certain treatment. Get a lawyer! If you experience any negative results from using a NuFACE microcurrent device, you should consult your doctor or dermatologist. I have thought about fat grafting, but Im scared to do another procedure. Microcurrent devices use low-level electrical impulses to stimulate the muscles in the face, says Lara Kaiser, an aesthetician in New York City. Ive had 3 rf eye treatments and so far Im pleased with the results. > <. I am a counselor and I think my work helped me to process this experience fairly well. This is also a direct quote from him: Most women I have seen with fat loss are near menopausal age.. I agree I think it is unlikely that the fat will return once the fat cells have been dissolved. Anyone experience fat loss from that non-laser procedure? Any studies? It is just not worth the risk!! A meta-study on MCT oil documented weight loss of 1.12 pounds over 10 weeks. Then, I just stopped using the machine. Does that make sense to you that needles can be adjusted . I used it 6 times and then I started reading about facial loss ..got kind of freaked out so now I just use it on my neck. And I especially like that it's made early morning wake-up times suck a little less, so this is one cosmetic commitment I'm willing to make. Jac: can you say more about the crystal roller? Hi Lydia, I used the tripollar X, the previous model of Vx, and I am still having facial fat loss since the last time I used it in aug this year. If theres any way to show you before and after pictures, I WILL! I hate looking in the mirror, people who know me look at me with concern, my boyfriend looks lime he is dating someone 10 years older. Results from NuFACE devices are usually temporary and last for a couple of days. I do hope your issue is resolved. It is theorised that this facial fat loss was due to the selective heating of the subcutaneous fat layer by radiofrequency energy. Your email address will not be published. We need more cases out there so that these offices and practitioners recognize the risk and responsibly warn people that it can happen, or so they can learn to use these devices properly if this is the source of the problem. Rf=zero fat. In your case, be proactive with an ophthalmologist. My wrinkles are worse, especially above my lip. Having the youthful, beautiful fat in yout face after an RF treatment lr therapy is NOT as rare as they want you to think it is. I will throw it away when it arrives. I notice when it started in March 2019. He said it was due to different lighting! Good luck with your searching. How many PRP procedures did you have? Can you please recommend a good surgeon that I can reach out to? Yes!!! Due to the risk of facial fat loss, Dr. Rodriguez rarely uses these methods, instead opting for fat grafting where the stem-cells in fat tissue help regenerate the skin. NuFace is another popular cosmetic device that uses microcurrent technology. My tech never explained to me the possible complications. The worst part? if you dont act quickly , it could be permanent. Lawyer may or may not be able to replace a dime, but I will keep making noise. You can use the device in the morning or evening. My smile line looks worse. I reported this to the company and asked to return the product. Charlotte Tilburys Under-the-Radar Sale Is Here, These Toiletry Bags Make Traveling Easy and Chic. Totally understand your concerns about filler. Add me please. I wish I saw this website before I literally just got and RF machine in the mail and used it on my face and neck. Mary or Ellen, I also have experienced devastating side effects and more from Intracel RF almost a year ago. It is a devastating thing to experience. Not just by the RN who performed the procedure, but by plastic surgeons all over the internet. Our approach to nonablative treatment of photoaging. I was so happy until a PRP treatment destroyed it last week. The devices are often compared to workouts for your face since they. But one of the biggest culprits is sun damage. It stimulates collagen, circulation, and wound healing.. Here is how they differ. Treat yourself to an at-home NuFACE microcurrent facial for $149 or four $37 installments with Afterpay. An ultrasound tighter, an EMS with different lights and I noticed my skin gets better. Or did it just gradually return over the course of a year? I also am a victim of this awful procedure. He said that using lasers and rf where they cannot solve the problem causes technicians to use them aggressively, resulting in damage to the skin, sometimes permanent damage. After doing half my face with Petersons guidance, I could see my brow looked more lifted and my cheek less puffy. I wonder, this is sucky news. This is interesting; one member, named Crista Lindsey, has started another group in addition to the RF group called, Fat Graft Disasters . Hi Kay, Im sorry to hear about your experience. It mimics the bodys natural current to address a variety of skin concerns, such as fine lines and wrinkles. All the 5 star reviews that these dermatologists flaunt are just fake, and most push treatments to us even when we dont need it. I have performed these treatments on myself and patients for 15 years with amazing results and never had a patient voice this concern. Too good to be true I guess. I had panic attacks the following days because of how it looked. Will the contraction and tightening lessen? Animal Model to Explain Fat Atrophy Using Nonablative Radiofrequency. Silence is highly suspicious and makes it look like theyre trying to hide something or simply dont know enough about their own technology. I wonder if radiofrequency can affect other kinds of connective and supportive tissue, which provide support and shape to the cheek. I stopped using microcurrent completely about a year ago. I think they administered a wrong technique for treating the scar. And unfortunately, even after they have said these fillers are going to last over a month, I feel like these fillers are also quickly dissolving away on me. I am so worried. I did the treatment for solving sagging cheek. I don't think the Nuface contracts the muscles like the Tua Trend or Tua Viso does. I had tear trough fat loss 3 months ago due to using a RF home device. Fascia blasting is a form of fascial manipulation. I have also suffered terrible fat loss in my face with Cutera Secret RF. Could the same kind of risks of facial fat loss occur with at home devices. I wouldnt have ever done this treatment if I wouldve known that this was a potential side effect. Or both at once? Thanks. I see this is a year old thread but I still wanted to comment. I wish you all the best. I will keep you all posted. Had agressive micropeel and dermapen with 2.0 length needles after 6 mo facial volume deceased with more wrinkles and some scarring, but then my nose starting having pain, a nose graft started showing externally, nose shape has changed, and nose congestion getting worse. This helps to tone and lift the skin, reducing the appearance of a double chin. The treatment caused the skin to pull downward in a very unattractive way. This led researchers to try, and successfully, replicate this fat loss in pigs [15]. Best of luck to you sis, and looking forward to hearing about your consultation. How they project themselves on social media and how they are is so different! I experienced terrible scarring and fat loss from a CO2 fractional laser. I really feel for anyone going through a similar situation The only positive thing I can say is that its really challenged my ability to focus less on the way I look and focus more on my actions/the things around me. Hi All, just came across this site. Microcurrent facials, while advantageous for plumping the muscles of the face, leading to tightening and toning of the skin, does not help in the treatment of hollow cheeks. One month after the treatment, the patient developed facial fat loss with visible skin depressions on her cheeks. I had none of these problems before. Within 35 months, those fillers arrested m started rolling around my no fat damaged face, until I looked like Frankensteins monster! So Id rather look into microneedling as the first option to try and correct this when enough waiting time has passed. Ruiz-Esparza, J. It has been 1 month since I stopped using it. Especially you younger ladies. However, it usually takes around 3 months to see an increase in collagen from laser and radiofrequency treatments so the situation may correct itself with time. The first few times I tried it, I followed the instructions for NuFace found on the included pamphlet to the letter: three glides on one side of my neck three times, three glides on one cheek three times, three swipes up one side of my forehead three timesthen repeat it all on the other side of your face. There are many at-home beauty devices gaining traction, and the NuFace Trinity is one of the most popular. However, a number of people have reported facial fat loss after radiofrequency treatments leaving them with skin that appears older than before the treatment. Just because it looks like aloe vera does not mean aloe vera is going to conduct your microcurrent.. Otherwise, you would have to prove that the Vivace is not capable of being used with sufficient precision to ensure that a trained technician can accurately deliver the correct energy to the targeted area, or that their training is deficient, which is much harder to prove. Surgeons who do facelifts pull up on the skin for a reason, b/c pulling down is ot a youthful direction to manipulate the skin. May God bless you all. I like to recommend them to patients as an adjunct treatment to things they do in the office, Dr. Hartman says. my cheek was plumping and standing like HUGE from the collegan regeneration *no joke, but I didnt like that huge cheek effect especially with my no volumn lower part of face from fat loss. Hi All, Im glad my story can provide hope. Now my mouth makes me look my age or older. Genetics plays a role but so does your lifestyle. Thanks- I pray that all of you who have experienced this find things that help. Debunking Microcurrent Myths - 7E Wellness At least thats what Im understanding from everything Ive read so far. It literally happened during the 30 minutes procedure and the problem was that the temperature was too high. Lower face I agree, I also want to lose some fat and tighten it up. Microcurrent cannot add layers of fat back to the face. Linda, unfortunately I dont keep any documents about the procedure and it was done in march 2019. The lasered area also feels very squishy. Therefore, it seems counterproductive for a rejuvenating treatment to reduce tissue that provides a more youthful appearance. I am 33 and also a victim of RF. Ad Choices, The NuFace Microcurrent Device Lives Up to the Hype. Without getting facial fat grafting or gaining alot of weight and hoping some goes to those parts of the face, how would the body just resolve this as they say can occasionally occur? But my face is still getting worse so I am still looking for something which is really hydrated enough for my skin. I spend a lot of money on weakening certain facial muscles with botox. Any info appreciated. Anyway 8 years out, Ive had the eye hollows and quality of my skin changed but Ive done my best with peels etc.. Like in a hurry? A few nights into my routine, I was able to snag a NuFace tutorial from esthetician and NuFace cofounder Tera Peterson, who did the treatment along with me over Zoom. I really hope to get my cheeks and forehead volume back naturally as I dont want fillers. I pray that each one of you finds a solution to this and feels beautiful again. These contain everything you need to get started: the device itself, charger, and primer gel. Ive also read about treatments like skin boosters or PRP being helpful. The device comes with the standard attachment with two spheres, which contours to the face to reduce the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles. I really think these products should not be sold. Nothing worked and if anything the skin is more wrinkled. Start with a dermatologist. Hi , I did a facial laser peel last yeah in November 2018, and I notice like 3 months later my checks looked flat.
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